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Manager experience assigned by department and all sub depts.
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The manager experience is not feasible for us if direct reports have to be individually assigned. Being able to do it by dept and all sub depts would make this workable for us.
Hi Rob, I have merged this idea into a more detailed version of this idea, and merged and related the others as I thought made sense. Thanks for taking the time to highlight this and help us consolidate our ideas in our ideas portal. This is very helpful as we get a lot of ideas from clients and it can be easy to miss duplicates. Pamela
Yes this was how it was explained to us and one of the main reasons for us to go with Absorb over a competitive system. We offer training to external clients who can have 1,000 employees. We planned to use Departments (or groups) for each of these large clients. Managing then individually is just not feasible.
@Robert Szustakowski (or any other Admin) I understand your comment and note below. However, there can be a workaround in the code by adding a toggle first. "Mange by User or by Department/group"
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Manager of individual users
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Manager by Department/Group
Then it is one method or the other (can't be both as there may be a conflict. Sub-departments would then be "indirect reports".
There are many other tickets on this subject and if you add them all up there is a large demand from the clients like me:
LMS-I-3943
LMS-I-4345
LMS-I-3406
Maybe merge them all as I think this would solve all of them.
I agree! Going through the admin experience takes training, but setting someone up as a manager is intuitive. However, as we use our LMS with external organizations, we need a way to automatically assign new users to their manager via their department or group. The manager feature as it exists today isn't useful as our teams are constantly adding new users.
I will look into your suggestions to see if they lessen the work to keep employees and management ���lined up��� correctly. Another issue for us, related to this concerns a situation that if an employee moves from one group or department to another, their required training needs to be adjusted to reflect what is required training for the new position the employee moved into. I don���t expect there is anything in Absorb now to help with that issue.
During the implementation and design process of this feature we did consider additional means of assigning users including the use of groups or departments, however this is ultimately not very compatible with how this concept is meant to work.
At the core of this functionality is the concept of a matrix organization, and an alternative way of organizing user relationships. This is intended to be separate from our group and department concepts.
Specifically, if a group of Users was assigned to a Manager, and the membership of that group changed such that a new member of the group already had a Manager assigned, we have to ask - who should be assigned as the Manager? Ultimately the implementation of logic for a scenario like this is quite challenging, and may not be very suitable to the wide variety of use cases our clients have.
In respect to streamlining the assignment of users to Managers as Direct Reports, this is certainly a reasonable concept and one which we have addressed with our Scheduled Data Imports which are available through our Professional Services team.
We support organizations with thousands of users and teams that have well over 100 individuals on them (as well as multiple shared managers which isn't currently possible) and the setup for this is quite tedious. If we can't have an all department and sub assignment, at least having a list view of all users in a department under the assign function with a multi-select checkbox functionality would be extremely helpful. Putting each user in individually is difficult, especially for training managers/directors who oversee all training in a 1000+ user organization.
This would also make it much easier to provide a third party like a designated department trainer access to the same very valuable information. This format of delivery is way nicer than going through the admin experience. I love it, but would love to expand its reach.
Manager Experience: automatically show direct reports without having to manually add a user
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Currently, when a Manager role is turned on in the user profile, they will not see any of their direct reports in the Manager Experience unless they are manually added in the User field. If the Manager role is turned on and assigned then they shou...
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https://absorb.aha.io/ideas/ideas/LMS-I-3406
Hi Rob,
I have merged this idea into a more detailed version of this idea, and merged and related the others as I thought made sense.
Thanks for taking the time to highlight this and help us consolidate our ideas in our ideas portal. This is very helpful as we get a lot of ideas from clients and it can be easy to miss duplicates.
Pamela
Yes this was how it was explained to us and one of the main reasons for us to go with Absorb over a competitive system. We offer training to external clients who can have 1,000 employees. We planned to use Departments (or groups) for each of these large clients. Managing then individually is just not feasible.
@Robert Szustakowski (or any other Admin) I understand your comment and note below. However, there can be a workaround in the code by adding a toggle first. "Mange by User or by Department/group"
Manager of individual users
Manager by Department/Group
Then it is one method or the other (can't be both as there may be a conflict. Sub-departments would then be "indirect reports".
There are many other tickets on this subject and if you add them all up there is a large demand from the clients like me:
LMS-I-3943
LMS-I-4345
LMS-I-3406
Maybe merge them all as I think this would solve all of them.
I agree! Going through the admin experience takes training, but setting someone up as a manager is intuitive. However, as we use our LMS with external organizations, we need a way to automatically assign new users to their manager via their department or group. The manager feature as it exists today isn't useful as our teams are constantly adding new users.
Thanks for the reply Robert,
I will look into your suggestions to see if they lessen the work to keep employees and management ���lined up��� correctly. Another issue for us, related to this concerns a situation that if an employee moves from one group or department to another, their required training needs to be adjusted to reflect what is required training for the new position the employee moved into. I don���t expect there is anything in Absorb now to help with that issue.
Regards,
Hello Folks,
During the implementation and design process of this feature we did consider additional means of assigning users including the use of groups or departments, however this is ultimately not very compatible with how this concept is meant to work.
At the core of this functionality is the concept of a matrix organization, and an alternative way of organizing user relationships. This is intended to be separate from our group and department concepts.
Specifically, if a group of Users was assigned to a Manager, and the membership of that group changed such that a new member of the group already had a Manager assigned, we have to ask - who should be assigned as the Manager? Ultimately the implementation of logic for a scenario like this is quite challenging, and may not be very suitable to the wide variety of use cases our clients have.
In respect to streamlining the assignment of users to Managers as Direct Reports, this is certainly a reasonable concept and one which we have addressed with our Scheduled Data Imports which are available through our Professional Services team.
I outlined some more details on this in this idea: https://ideas.absorblms.com/ideas/LMS-I-2230
Groups would also be helpful
We support organizations with thousands of users and teams that have well over 100 individuals on them (as well as multiple shared managers which isn't currently possible) and the setup for this is quite tedious. If we can't have an all department and sub assignment, at least having a list view of all users in a department under the assign function with a multi-select checkbox functionality would be extremely helpful. Putting each user in individually is difficult, especially for training managers/directors who oversee all training in a 1000+ user organization.
This would also make it much easier to provide a third party like a designated department trainer access to the same very valuable information. This format of delivery is way nicer than going through the admin experience. I love it, but would love to expand its reach.